Venomous Gale
Poison Sting
Plague Ward
Noxious Plague
Talenttræ
Venomous Gale skaber Plague Wards
Poison sting increases your farming speed, if you are farming one camp make sure to spread your poison, if you are farming a ranged camp or 2 camps at the same time dont bother spreading your poison, you will take unnecesary damage
An early level of venemous gale could be good if enemies are entering your jungle, otherwise you want to keep spending you points on something else
Startgenstande
Allways a good source of regen
You will need these as your time is precious, you need xp as fast as you can and goin back to the fountain will mess that up
Tidligt i spillet
Midas is a ridiculous item on venomancer if you get it before 9 min. Otherwhise a still great item for a jungler veno
Now that you have a hand of midas your second item should be a ring of aquila as the stats are amazing on most agi heroes and should lower your mana problems
Kernegenstande
Try to use the int mode most of the time unless you need more survivavility
Veil is a great core item as it will increase all the magic damage dealt to enemies (Wich you have a lot of) and will give you a bunch of more survivavility because of its stats
You buy wand this late because it is the moment where you should leave your jungle
If you intend to keep farming dont buy this
Allows you to go in and out of fights and kick enemies away of your face
Gives extra range allowing you to poison more enemies with your pasive while being farther away of enemies
BKB is always a great item against stuns or magic casters, if you are not goin in the middle of fights then is not a must but on most of the cases veno wants to be a toxic bomb that explodes on top of all its enemies
Extension items
A great item for venomancer who apreciates the silence , magic damage and stats of this item
If there is an important enemy a hex can be a nightmare for him
Good stats
If there are many phisical carries shiva can be a life saver slowing enemies down and making you a better team fighter
Situational items
If you want a perfect initiation blink is the item you are looking for
Enemies tping out? Low on mana? Enemies have Blade mails? Debuffs? Lack of speed?
Eul’s fixes a lot of problems and is in general a great item to have in certain situations at a relatively cheap price
If you are being bursted down before you cant cast your abilities Aeon disk can be a great item.
If you need more slow skadi is the way to go
If you are missing on damage or dealing with many illusions you may want to buy a Mjollnir
You may want to run faster or go into an important battle, you never know.
Silver edge for breaking someone’s pasive, running away or ganking
Againts phisical carries
Great against tanky heroes
Anti blade mail
Octarine core is probably not a good item for venomancer but in a situation against many blade mails it will decrease the damage taken significatively
If no one has taken a Pipe of insight maybe you should as it will decrease the damage you take from enemies using blade mails against your spells
Only one enemy has blade mail but you still want to get rid of it? nullifier is the way to go as it will mute the enemy making him unable of using it
Andre genstande
If you farm has sucked you can consider buying this.
Allows you to go in and out of fights.
Gives extra range allowing you to poison more enemies with your pasive while being farther away of enemies
Not bad if you are goin mid, but you shouldn’t
Im looking at you.
You probably dont want these before you get midas
Silences enemies and deals damage based on the dmg the target took on the duration
also nice stats
You probably want orchid first
Venomancer is already very slow phase bots could fix that problem
Not worth it
Sadly venomancer is not a tank
In a situation where you go into a team fight and you know you will never come back maybe that 10% dmg would be fine, otherwise buy something else
You probably dont want this, not only you dont have that big of mana needs like other characters but staying alive for venomancer is not easy
i dont even know if this works on your ultimate
Consider buying this if you whole team lacks dmg againts towers
If you are searching how to deal with blade mails i made a lil list of items on the left bottom of the shop, you see it? its right there
If you are mad like me then yeah buy it, is probably not goin to save you but whatever
Slow for a super slow build
Slow and good stats for a phisical veno
Bottle is a good item for midlaners, you are not one of em
A blade mail that you cant fight against? TP back to base and you are now safe
Poison nova does not stack, only buy if you are on the brink of losing or in dire need of a second ult
«i am not a suport» does not mean you can’t buy wards
«i am not a suport» does not mean you can’t buy wards
Courier is not necessary till you have your midas ready so if nobody buys it you can expect someone to buy it before you have your midas ready
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Is Jungler an actual liked role?
I know in League of Legends it’s not a very liked role and I usually get hate from the league of legends reddit for asking these kind of questions.
So I’ll ask you guys instead! Is Jungler an actual liked role? Most Mobas mobile or not I’ve played go 50/50 for this role.
Автор сообщения: Karussell Veteran
jungle is for pros.bad or low skill players feelings are hurt if you dont stay with them together.a pro will pull ,stack or jungle hard to open space for teammates,and can collect gold and exp alone.without disturbing your line. but you need skil and the right hero.and your teammate must understand a bit of the gameplay.you need jungle teammates to collect free items for you all too.
99.9999% of the time being a jungler is griefing your team.
If you dont want to play dota and play an easy game with no resistance just play world of warcraft. Dont grief your team because you are a weak player who doesnt like resistance / competition.
Автор сообщения: Prophylaxis
Автор сообщения: GameSmashDash
I know in League of Legends it’s not a very liked role and I usually get hate from the league of legends reddit for asking these kind of questions.
So I’ll ask you guys instead! Is Jungler an actual liked role? Most Mobas mobile or not I’ve played go 50/50 for this role.
Jungle in dota 2 is griefing your team.
UNLESS you are a literal professional player. And honestly I even regret typing this because most brainlet jungle players think ‘oh well if a PRO IS DOING IT.. I SHOULD TOO!!!’
Dont grief your team.
In turbo jungle is way more viable and depending on how bad the lane is there is more farm there depending what hero your playing.
Axe and CK are the best junglers IMO. Axe in particular at least in turbo it’s more gold to start jungle. Don’t ask me how I know but CK starting jungle can have treads/aghs by 8 minutes.
But yeah doesn’t matter the extra farm you got won you the game you will still get reported.
Автор сообщения: 2Cute4Ustacey
Автор сообщения: Prophylaxis
Jungle in dota 2 is griefing your team.
UNLESS you are a literal professional player. And honestly I even regret typing this because most brainlet jungle players think ‘oh well if a PRO IS DOING IT.. I SHOULD TOO!!!’
Dont grief your team.
In turbo jungle is way more viable and depending on how bad the lane is there is more farm there depending what hero your playing.
Axe and CK are the best junglers IMO. Axe in particular at least in turbo it’s more gold to start jungle. Don’t ask me how I know but CK starting jungle can have treads/aghs by 8 minutes.
But yeah doesn’t matter the extra farm you got won you the game you will still get reported.
No one gives a ♥♥♥♥ about turbo, the joke mode.
Jungle = griefing.
Dont grief your team or you can and will and SHOULD BE reported.
It used to but not anymore. The way DOTA is balanced right now — you gain way more gold and EXP if you stay on lane and can lasthit, or even better — kill. People only go to farm the jungle camps when:
A) They were pushed out of their lane and have nothing else to do;
B) They reached the farming stage of their carry and are vacuuming the forests.
We used to have jungle capable heroes, but all of them got nerfed. No one can farm jungle efficiently as a level 1 anymore, no one.
jungler was more of a role before the map patch which made the map bigger. You could easily get midas with NP like 8 mins and snowball from there. Now they made it hard in jungle, less gold, spots further apart. They did this to make people fight more. Still though you can get a boost from jungling, its jsut less of a strat from the start and more about keeping you GPM high
Автор сообщения: Devine Elf
jungler was more of a role before the map patch which made the map bigger. You could easily get midas with NP like 8 mins and snowball from there. Now they made it hard in jungle, less gold, spots further apart. They did this to make people fight more. Still though you can get a boost from jungling, its jsut less of a strat from the start and more about keeping you GPM high
annoying subhuman kagami (also known as DANTE) is a toxic lifeless local sociopath
You hardly ever see people jungle from the get go anymore. Lanes are where the farm is. The only way you can get a core hero to even farm elsewhere is by offering a very fat stack provided they have something to kill it with. I don’t hate it. Playing hide and seek with enigma for 12 minutes and seeing him for the first time of the game when he blinked in for the ult wasn’t the most fun or interactive experience. Being that dude was pretty fun tho not gonna lie.
Автор сообщения: w o l l O p
Автор сообщения: GameSmashDash
I know in League of Legends it’s not a very liked role and I usually get hate from the league of legends reddit for asking these kind of questions.
So I’ll ask you guys instead! Is Jungler an actual liked role? Most Mobas mobile or not I’ve played go 50/50 for this role.
Jungle in dota 2 is griefing your team.
UNLESS you are a literal professional player. And honestly I even regret typing this because most brainlet jungle players think ‘oh well if a PRO IS DOING IT.. I SHOULD TOO!!!’
Dont grief your team.
I came here to ask because I saw the Moba Tubers talking out of their butts on this subject again.
Jungler as a role has not existed for years. You get far too little exp from way tougher jungle creeps.
Jungling is now supplementary to lane farm, rather than an alternative to the lanes.
Автор сообщения: Nargo
Jungler as a role has not existed for years. You get far too little exp from way tougher jungle creeps.
Jungling is now supplementary to lane farm, rather than an alternative to the lanes.
You remember the good ol’ days of cliff jungling and getting 3-4 levels over everyone else on the map? Good times, good times.
OP, in case you see this, nobody likes junglers nowadays and you will get flamed to oblivion most of the time for not showing up in any lane.
Автор сообщения: AerSilver ♞
Автор сообщения: Nargo
Jungler as a role has not existed for years. You get far too little exp from way tougher jungle creeps.
Jungling is now supplementary to lane farm, rather than an alternative to the lanes.You remember the good ol’ days of cliff jungling and getting 3-4 levels over everyone else on the map? Good times, good times.
OP, in case you see this, nobody likes junglers nowadays and you will get flamed to oblivion most of the time for not showing up in any lane.
The horror of level 1 iron talon LC jungle teammate every game.
Автор сообщения: GameSmashDash
Автор сообщения: 2Cute4Ustacey
You can jungle and win and still get reported.
Jungle during a fight = report
It’s not a role. It’s not a reportable offense according to Valve’s but players will report you anyway.
I keep hearing how toxic Dota 2 is but 99% of my interactions (not counting the trolls) has been positive or neutral on these forums. Granted most of the toxic matches I saw back in the day were from long matches and not really short matches.
How long have you been playing the game? If you are new, then you probably don’t perceive trolling because you are in the honeymoon phase, but give it some time and you will see how toxic the community can get. With that said, DOTA’s toxicity is not the worst that I have come across, but its probably top 5 worst communities that I have experienced.
Автор сообщения: GameSmashDash
I know in League of Legends it’s not a very liked role and I usually get hate from the league of legends reddit for asking these kind of questions.
So I’ll ask you guys instead! Is Jungler an actual liked role? Most Mobas mobile or not I’ve played go 50/50 for this role.
Jungle in dota is NOT a thing.
Jungle in dota = GRIEF your team and you DESERVE to be reported.
Автор сообщения: Ragnoraok
Автор сообщения: GameSmashDash
I keep hearing how toxic Dota 2 is but 99% of my interactions (not counting the trolls) has been positive or neutral on these forums. Granted most of the toxic matches I saw back in the day were from long matches and not really short matches.
How long have you been playing the game? If you are new, then you probably don’t perceive trolling because you are in the honeymoon phase, but give it some time and you will see how toxic the community can get. With that said, DOTA’s toxicity is not the worst that I have come across, but its probably top 5 worst communities that I have experienced.
1. No one in the Dota community has put words in my mouth
2. I haven’t been here for long.
3. No one in the Dota community has harassed me across platforms onto other social media groups and or harassed me on other forums in hopes of being an A hole.
Until people in the Dota community start harassing me outside of dota and starts doing one of these three things; I think I’m fine with the Dota community.
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